Michael Spencer, Outing Joel Osteen came up when I was looking for the largest church in America. It was not what I was expecting.
I’ve been to Lakewood. It’s not what I am seeing on this website.
Aaronimo’s Xanga Site has an article on the problems with Lakewood, specifically the communion service there.
My response to that article:
I have been to Lakewood. I am not a member there. I have been to church when they were having communion.
Lots of churches- Baptist, Church of Christ, Assembly of God, among others- pass the elements around. They also use grape juice, which is unfermented wine, for several reasons. But it is “fruit of the vine.” And, because of recovering alchoholics, it is a useful alternative to wine.
This woman was probably not stating the church’s belief, but hers, concerning the bread and the wine. It may have been her understanding. Which she wouldn’t feel she couldn’t give you, because she does go to the church and she does take part in communion. I wouldn’t say it is a good choice for a proof of what the church as a whole believes or teaches.
I did not hear anyone say that the bread would heal you or that the juice would forgive you.
I also went to Lakewood’s site for their explanation:
This page states what Lakewood believes about Communion. Specifically “WE BELIEVEâ€¦in the regular taking of Communion as an act of remembering what the Lord Jesus did for us on the cross.”
Other thoughts related to Aaronimo. A pastor is another name for a preacher/an evangelist. It is not generally used as the pastor/presbyter/elder of the NT. Pastor is actually a use of the word shepherd, so you would think it would refer to elders, but it doesn’t commonly. My church has a pastor who is the preacher/evangelist. The elders are other people.
Just because I call a pig a rose, doesn’t make it a rose. Just because I call an evangelist an elder, doesn’t make him an elder.